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Halladay/Lee deal finalized

Posted by Steven Lourie on December 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM Comments comments (0)

I think this may be the biggest trade ever in the history of anything. Has there ever been a bigger trade in sports history? Maybe when the Cowboys traded Herschel Walker to the Vikings for their entire team, their next like ten draft picks, and half of their owner’s soul, but this is different. This one is actually fair. Two, count ‘em two, former Cy Youngs switching teams in the same deal, as well as 7 top prospects switching teams as well. I don’t even want to think about all the work that went into this deal because I know how hard it can be for even the smallest deal to get done, but this one, 4 teams, 11 players, 6 million dollars changing hands, these GMs must not have slept for days to get this one done. Maybe that explains a few things here, more on that later, but anyway, I’m not going to talk about how it got done because that’s its impossible. Its done, let’s make sense of it.

 

Deal for Phillies

Receive: Roy Halladay, 6 million dollars, and prospects Phillippe Aumont, Tyson Gillies, and Juan Ramirez

Give: Cliff Lee, and prospects Travis D’Arnaud, Michael Taylor, and Kyle Drabek

 

Honestly, its hard to make a call on the prospects here because the only one I’ve actually seen play is Kyle Drabek, but I can assume that they are getting close in value to what they are giving, maybe a little less because Drabek seems like a future ace. I’ll just focus on Cliff Lee for Roy Halladay. I don’t understand the move. Halladay is a great pitcher, don’t get me wrong, and I think he’s better than Lee, but Lee is proven in that park, in that city, for that team, in that league. When a player changes teams, there are so many things changing, so many variables that could go wrong and then all of a sudden the player isn’t who you thought he was, especially when changing leagues and facing batters he’s never faced before. Remember Barry Zito? Halladay is better than Zito, but imagine a few years ago when Zito was still with the A’s. If you had heard that the A’s were trading Zito for someone that was slightly lesser of a pitcher, but had been proven in both leagues, you would have said that A’s won that deal. However, a few years later, Zito is in the NL and pretty much sucks. Lee is not as good as Halladay, but he’s proven in both leagues and younger. He fits the team. He’s proven with the team, with the ballpark, the league, the city, the fans, etc. Halladay hasn’t done that get and, though I would never hope this, in a few years, he might not as the dominant starter he is now. I don’t understand the move here.

 

Deal for Mariners

Receive: Cliff Lee

Give: Prospects Phillippe Aumont, Tyson Gillies, and Juan Ramirez

 

Again I’ve never seen any of these prospects play or even heard of them, all I know is that Baseball America, who I trust for prospect rankings, has Aumont and Ramirez ranked as their top two pitching prospects. However, I like the deal for them. Cliff Lee is not Erik Bedard. He’s not injury prone and overrated. He’s a legit ace who has success in the AL, which is key. They need an ace and he and Felix Hernandez, assuming they don’t go and trade him now, make a hell of a 1-2 punch atop their rotation.

 

Deal for Athletics

Receive: Michael Taylor

Give: Brett Wallace

 

Straight prospect swap, Billy Beane has done well with scouting young talent in the past, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Deal for Blue Jays

Receive: Brett Wallace, Kyle Drabek, Travis D’Arnaud

Give: Roy Halladay, 6 million

 

Bye bye face of the franchise. Hopefully these prospect pan out or their fans are going to have a riot. I have never seen Brett Wallace play, but from what I know about him he’s a 2008 1st round pick, who has been traded twice already, once for Halladay once for Matt Holliday (talk about a lot to live up to), he’s a natural 3rd baseman who is going to have to play 1st in the future because of his size, and he has a huge bat. D’Arnaud was one of the Phillies top ten prospects and plays a position of need for the Jays. However, all I can say for now is these guys better be good.

10 possible destinations for Roy Halladay

Posted by Steven Lourie on July 12, 2009 at 1:59 AM Comments comments (0)

In no particular order


Boston Red Sox


The Blue Jays have already said that they aren’t afraid to trade Halladay to a division rival, which might not be smart as they’d have to face him like 4-5 times per year. Nonetheless, they aren’t afraid to do it, so the Sox are going to be mentioned. The Jays would likely ask for a package of prospect centered around Clay Buchholz or Michael Bowden and the Sox, who have held on to their prospects in recent years, don’t want to trade either of them. I doubt he goes to Boston.


New York Yankees


The Yankees could use Halladay, as their rotation is a bit of a mess, but they will have some trouble doing so. One, they don’t have the prospects that the Jays want, and two, as crazy as this sounds, they don’t have the money. In a down economy, after building a whole new stadium and spending a half of a billion dollars in guaranteed money on free agents this offseason, they don’t have a lot of funds left, especially since Yankee stadium isn’t selling out like it used to. 


Chicago White Sox


The White Sox will likely decide if they are buyers or sellers in the next week or so. If they decide they are out of it, they’ll put guys like Jermaine Dye on the block. If they decide that being at 44-42, 3.5 back of the NL central lead, is too close to sell, they’ll likely go after Halladay. Remember, they almost traded for Jake Peavy before he shot the deal down. Halladay will likely cost them a little bit more than Peavy, but the White Sox have shown they are willing to make the blockbuster deal. 


Texas Rangers


The Rangers make a lot of sense. As good as their pitching as been, they could still use a frontline guy like Halladay. I proposed a deal in an earlier blog before the season that would send Halladay to the Rangers for Michael Young and a prospect, but now it looks like the Jays want a prospect centric package. No problem, the Rangers have the best farm system in a majors. The only problem, the Rangers are reportedly taking out MLB loans to pay their players’ salaries so them taking on Halladay’s 12 million a year or signing him to an extension seems very unlikely. 


Los Angeles Angels


The Angels have held on to their prospects for years, but they traded for Mark Teixiera last year to help them hold off the Rangers. Now the Rangers are ahead of them in the standings, though its close, so it is possible that they could trade for Halladay to put them back on top. The only thing is, Halladay is going to be a lot more expensive than Teixiera, who they got at a very cheap price, so I don’t know if the Angels want to give up that much. It just doesn’t seem like their way.


Philadelphia Philles


The Philles have the farm system and they definitely have the need. They could run away with the overall poor NL East with the combination of Halladay and Cole Hamels atop their rotation. They are one of the teams that makes the most sense right now as they look to defend their World Series title.


St. Louis Cardinals


Its not normally the Cardinals’ way to trade for big name players, but they are reportedly very interested and look like one of the front runners. These are all rumors, but it could make a lot of sense. The Cards need something to separate them from the rest of the division and with Chris Carpenter’s health issues, they don’t have a dependable ace.


Los Angeles Dodgers


They could make sense, but I doubt he will go there, for 3 reasons. One, the Dodgers just don’t trade young for old and take on money. They already spent money taking on Manny last year and I don’t expect them to do that again. Two, the Blue Jays have asked for either Chad Billingsley or Clayton Kershaw in return. Kershaw and Billingsley are not just good prospects, but huge parts of the team right now. Three, they don’t need him. They have the best record in the majors, what would be the point. 


San Francisco Giants


The Giants might just be in this because the Dodgers are, but Buster Olney named them as one of 5 front runners for Halladay. They already have Cain and Lincecum, and 25 games in which they have given up 1 or fewer runs. They really need a bat, but there just aren’t that many good bats out there. They have the farm system, though I don’t think they would give up Buster Posey or Madison Bumgarner. 


Colorado Rockies


They are a bit of a sleeper. They have the need, wanting to leapfrog the Giants for the wild card. Halladay is from Denver so he could give them a hometown discount on extension negotiations. I just don’t know if they have the prospects that would interest the Jays enough to pull the trigger. 




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